And for some reason, my brain connected that the fact that I was so excited that I chose my own excitement over whatever safekeeping measures that I could have had I kept - I mean, it's - you know, saying it out loud, it seems ridiculous. And then when I looked back, that's when it exploded. And I was looking forward to it so much, that when it started the ascension, I looked away. For some reason watching the shuttle explode, one of the things that I did was I was so excited by it. SIMON: Help us understand an episode in your life you write about, which I don't know might be an early sign of what you were going to wind up contending with, like, a lot of other school children, really around the world that day in the 1980s. And in order for me to just sort of get through my day without having to worry about worrying them, I'm OK is the easy and accessible answer. I'm hyperaware, especially now, that the people in my life are very worried about me. As open as I am about where I am with my emotional and mental health, I still think that the easy answer of I'm OK helps alleviate any guilt or pressure for other people to try and make me feel better. Did you have to tell that to survive? Do you still have to say it now? SIMON: I want to begin with another arresting phrase early in the book, the lie I tell the most is I'm OK. BASSEY IKPI: Thank you so much for having me.
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